The Nature Theater of Oklahoma ([info]nuncstans) wrote,
@ 2003-11-26 14:53:00
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Current music:Quasi - The Poisoned Well

this may be true
I woke up from no dreams, exhausted. I woke up and couldn't turn or raise any part of me the millimeter of good faith that would have engaged my semi-autonomic nervous system like a U.S. passport flashed at a checkpoint. I woke up and my only thought was this is the end.

I've never been crazy about Radiohead, and while I was waiting for the water to boil before the heat came on, too emptyheaded to act like an adult and override my autonomic morning rebellion of refusing to wear slippers when it's cold, I realized that the reason is simple, and really has nothing to do with a long procession of other people's friends snorting $10 lines to Kid A, and the nervous embarrassment cut with pathos, the shame at the distance between me and them, slightly overweight, slightly insecure, slightly below-average in some perceived category of being that I've never heard of, boys who should have been girls, in short, cuing up some Radiohead to feel the first blaze of superiority that levels the playing field so that they can talk with confidence about things they know nothing about. It's not about them. It's just that they aren't really about anything, and neither is Radiohead. And things that aren't about anything wear me out, sustaining my end of a conversation that is about having a conversation with me, listening to a song that's about listening to a song, feeling wistful about feeling wistful. Radiohead makes me suicidal, because it forces me to helplessly witness the fact that thousands or millions of people have listened to this music wanting to feel nostalgic. Music that makes you want something (coke, the drug that makes you want more coke; McDonald's, the food that makes you want more food; Camel Lights, the cigarette that makes you want another cigarette...); hey guys, let's do something. This music makes me want to do something. This music that makes you want to want to want something.

Their last album is titled and packaged in a timely and intelligent way. It's called Hail to the Thief; there is a vaguely allusive, vaguely political "collage" on the cover, made up of faux-hand-drawn faux-pieces of paper saying things like "copies" and "oil" and "anti" and "loss" and "fear" and "TV". Sort of like A.N.S.W.E.R., sort of like this boy in my grade who went through several difficult phases on his desperate trajectory away from lifelong nerddom, culminating in the most awkward of all, the sensitive/weight-lifting phase, in which he would announce in an anabolically-enhanced growl in the middle of A.P. English that he had "something to read to the class". This something was inevitably embarrassing, personal, often "poetry" and always patently untrue. Vague allegations of abuse at vague (schoolboard member) parents, made-up emotions raging in a hysteric need for an audience, nothing tarted up as nihilism.

I woke up today and I felt like a Radiohead song, allusive and empty, depressed but more depressing. A signpost on the way nowhere that says "speed up" or "slow down". Possessed by the kind of false consciousness that says things like "what a depressing day" because the lenses on my eyes are gray, or "all I feel like doing is listening to "The Poisoned Well" when really I mean that I have that urge to spy on my own emotions through a cheap diminished seventh peephole, through which everything sounds like a hissing radiator next to a rain-blurred window and we all are the same. God forbid I looked at myself head-on, like Medusa in the mirror; we know where that takes us, a place where the lighting is bad and the drugs are about exhibitionism; a place antithetical to our voyeur's needs, our control-freak needs, our need to tell the truth with lies and lies with the truth.

Or the need to get angry at some innocuous late-capitalist bystander, always a straw man, a Radiohead, a goyisha scapegoat, a jackass remark to have the last word, anything rather than admitting that you drew the short straw, the E.Q. shortbus, the protoalzheimer's path to a lifetime of making up preferences for nice round tables at restaurants, designer clothes and books you would never actually read, a lifetime of fighting to stop fighting, of living for retirement, of next-best decisions as long as no one finds out who you really are and at least a few important people think you're important too. A lifetime of editing your epitaph to make sure that it's really really you they put in the ground. Mine will say nunc stans, to make sure I'm really dead; and to make sure the present ends presently, it will all be burned on the raft, my goyisha funeral, like a viking on the East River, violating zoning laws for cremation and probably for smoking as well.

At least I never lied.




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[info]lapsedmodernist
2003-11-26 03:20 pm UTC (link)
for some reason this post makes me understand better why you don't like U2.

the friends' friends who listen to radiohead, though, could listen to johnny cash with the same feeling of seeking...fuck, no word for it in english, but i know i told you about the russian word "prichastiye" (in the context of Rapture and her penchant for other people's miseries) that connotates becoming a part of something, acquiring a belonging...in russian it is also the word for "communion" but has broader connotations. it's all part of being-as-zombies (a sort of post-heideggerian state of being), one can listen to radiohead or do lines off "American III" or say things like "you know those men who live high in the mountains and make snow? i think i'd like to do that."

and speaking of mirrors; if those "real" mirrors exist, why are they only manufactured and installed as "novelties" at East Village bars where, arguably, one is drunk enough that the effects of the "real" mirror are compromised anyway.

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PRICHASTIYE
[info]nuncstans
2003-11-27 10:48 am UTC (link)
That's exactly it. How do you pronounce it, again? (So I can bastardize it, again? Because that is what I do best...) Speaking of those men who live in the mountains, guess where I'm going to dinner!

Yes, that's right, the least of 3 evils, after a last-minute "third way" campaign (but I'm nobody's labor party lapdog) once Millenium had left for W. Virginia, in the form of Millenium's, uh, erstwhile ...bed companion? Initials Z.F.? But after a traumatic story about something he did to a guest towel it was decided to celebrate the traditional feast in true family form. we are expecting at least 100 people on rented chairs, the meal features an entire roast pig, which seems appropriate aesthetically, at least to me, but then all of this irony is for MY BENEFIT ALONE, as I will be SURROUNDED BY TITANS in a bad way, as the kind of insult Zeus might once have casually thrown around. I'm sorry, I may have mentioned that it's been a difficult thanksgiving so far, which in addition to my friend's false death, was highlighted (highlit?) by a holiday phone call from my mother (shortly before the emergency your-friend-just-died phone call) in which she regaled [info]superchango with anecdotes from her previous holiday phone conversation with her DAR relatives including an obscure joke about making a poached egg look like a turkey, which, obscurely, made [info]superchango laugh but which I can't even PARSE AS A SENTENCE FRAGMENT, and then, while I was sleepily waiting for my turn on the phone, [info]superchango was like, "OK, you too, bye" and hung up. MY DAMN MOTHER COMPLIED WITH HER LUTHERAN HOLIDAY OBLIGATIONS BANTERING WITH SUPERCHANGO, and NEGLECTED EVEN TO MARGINALLY DAMPEN MY MORNING. WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO? Did you know that sometimes I feel like a motherless child? And the rest of the time I wish I was a motherless child?

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Re: PRICHASTIYE
[info]lapsedmodernist
2003-11-27 03:54 pm UTC (link)
wait...you are spending thanksgiving with ZF? what is this about a pig and a hundred people? i don't understand, can't separate hyperbole from reality, possibly because for children of mark:reality = other people:hyperbole in SAT terms. at least you don't have to dine with the Brothers Karamazzov. i can't believe your mother, i just can't believe her. i am really sorry.
does this mean you are not going away for the weekend?

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[info]hunterxtc
2003-11-27 02:23 am UTC (link)
I have Kid A and OK COmputer, but I never listen to them because.. well.. I don't know why. At least I didn't until I read this post. Radiohead is one of those bands you are supposed to like if you are a student of music, if you know the timeline that goes from Elvis to the Beatles to the Rolling Stones to the Sex Pistols to the Clash to U2 to Radiohead... but I just don't get them, and I don't think they get themselves. Perhaps, as the Sex Pistols once said, it's the great rock and roll swindle.

I also hate the Velvet Underground for the same reasons.

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Radiohead=ice cream headache
[info]nuncstans
2003-11-27 11:02 am UTC (link)
The great rock and roll swindle

Exactly. I know what you mean about the Velvet Underground, too. Some time in high school, I felt like it was time for me to be into the Velvet Underground, and unlike the majority of music to my bizarrely picky ear, it wasn't offensive per se, but I also just didn't really care if it was on or off, and when I diligently played my dad's one VU record I would routinely not notice that the side had ended until the repetitive thunk-thunk-thunk of the needle against the pin. I NOTICED THE NEEDLE AGAINST THE PIN MORE THAN THE MUSIC. But what can I say, in 1992 they seemed really cool.

[info]superchango started liking Radiohead a few years ago, in an ambivalent way. He was always like, "I like the way his voice sounds", and I guess I know what he means, the way I can like the way the coffeemaker sounds; and I LOVE the way the coffee maker sounds because it means I'm about to have some coffee. If Radiohead served me coffee after wailing through one of their (his? another thing that bugs me? How many damn people are in Radiohead? Is it a band? One guy and, uh, pain?) songs, then I would LOVE Radiohead. It's just missing its halftime refreshments like a football game, its UTILITY like use-value. I mean, I feel the same way about Strauss and Fear Factor. A lot of adrenalin which for me (unlike for PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO ON FEAR FACTOR, [info]superchango) just leaves me with an ice cream headache.

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[info]mendaciloquent
2003-11-27 01:00 pm UTC (link)
Radiohead is one of the bands sent to the “friends said you have to listen to this but upon trying you would rather watch jeopardy or take a nap or drink your own pee”-pile, which also includes Flaming Lips, Tool, Modest Mouse, Magnetic Fields, XTC, Bright Eyes, Guided by Voices, and probably a few other bands that people have felt the need to introduce me to in the form strong recommendations or donations. I really don’t like music that is “ok”, or “kind of interesting”, or “neat”. Music that is “neat” can burn in hell. I'd rather listen to bullshit than listen to something that's boring, and if I’m going to listen to bullshit, it might as well be entertaining, or pander to a psychological defect or something, or conform to some contrived aesthetic fetish, or at the very fucking least it should make me seem cool.

Anyway that isn’t the point. You sure sound like poop, nuncstans. Or very glum, at least. That isn’t really the point either though. Be well.

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Thanks
[info]nuncstans
2003-11-28 12:48 am UTC (link)
So far this century sucks.

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[info]notorius_amc
2004-02-19 02:35 pm UTC (link)
sorry, i'm not really in this circle, but thank you so much for putting modest mouse in that group. The singer sounds like he messes his voice up on purpose to be dylan-like or something. sorry. yeah but thanks again.

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interview
[info]superfuture
2003-11-28 12:05 pm UTC (link)
damn your posts are great... i've never enjoyed radiohead or U2 either... one of the best interviews in music was between members of this band NegativeLand and The Edge in a magazine called Mondo2000. The Edge had no idea he was being interviewed by the very band U2 had bankrupted for sampling music. it was great how they started praising U2 for their new direction in music, using samples, and in the middle of the interview they started questioning him about suing a band that had used sampling techniques. in the end, the edge apologized and asked that they meet afterwards for a huge 'donation' and studio time.

good night, erudite.

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thanks
[info]nuncstans
2003-11-28 01:25 pm UTC (link)
U2 is in a whole 'nother category of things I hate. I hate U2 even more than Radiohead, because whereas Radiohead is like pricey lacanian waiting-room music,to better relax and look at modern art, a well-placed U2 song can ruin my whole day.

Like the more intense U2 songs, such as "sunday,bloody sunday", which I used to love in elementary school because it sounded really serious and scary and I could tell because of subtle references ("bloody", "bombs") that this was about something bad and political, in fact U2 never really writes ABOUT anything. "Sunday bloody Sunday" is virtually the only one that even commits to being "about" a specific thing, while years and years of intensity and torso-flashing on Bono's part never really mean anything more than vaguely progressive stances where progressive means "pro-human" and never jeopardize the band's ability to fill arenas full of beerhead bostonians.

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[info]hunterxtc
2003-11-30 07:51 pm UTC (link)
Bono is so full of himself, like he is here on Earth to save the Earth... and that part of him pisses me off so much that I did a report on his globetrotting ways when I was doing my MBA.

I will have to admit that one of the best live albums of all time is U2 Live at Red Rocks, and in the video, when they sing Sunday Bloody Sunday, someone has a flag flying and Bono, in classic rock star pose, yells out to the person, "keep it up there! Let it fly!"

I think they started out as a very religious band, and some of their probelms early on were due to the fact that they were singing secular music. Go figure.

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